The Lost Lowdown

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3:52 minutes in and you say, "So here is how this final podcast is gonna work..." You guys truly are amazing!

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It's been a miserable wet few days up north and so I've sat down and rewatched most of the sixth season with my fellow Lowdowners' comments in mind, but most importantly with the knowledge of what the Flash Sideways really was. I hope you're not all sick of me by now, but I really did have trouble w...

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(Thanks Vince, I think what you wrote is exactly what I was looking for. I love the line "perhaps we are in a dark age of a different sort" - that certainly adds a new perspective. Great point about Rose and Bernard too. I am getting a better sense of the complete closure of the characters' story, w...

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Sure, for us, discussing the mysteries was the main focus and provided the interest, but developing the characters was the show's main intention. Yes, I think this is exactly my problem!! The intention of the show is different from the reason it was interesting . Using Claude's analogy, I feel (whi...

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Since the Flash-Sideways is ultimately "Pre-Heaven" and has no impact on the Island story (unless I'm missing something), maybe discuss how the season went without it. That is, if every episode simply did not have those Flash-Sideways this year, including the finale, what would the feeling be about ...

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Here's a twist you weren't expecting: that the guy in the cabin who said "Help me!" was actually future (or current) ME!! I'd leave this cabin but there's ash around it, but actually the ash doesn't matter just some guy's rules matter, and that guy only matters because he said he matters, and when t...

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Outside of your 30-hour general chat, what I would like to hear discussed is maybe just a debate on whether the writers did what they said they would do - or, maybe more concretely, what the actual content of the show led us to expect in terms of an ending, and whether or not that was fulfilled. As ...

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The ending was so emotional and I really feel they fulfilled the "it's all about the characters" aspect. I really loved it as I watched it... until I started to really think about it (which is what I have always done with Lost / why I have always loved Lost / what I thought they wanted me to do with...

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I read a passionate theory on another site that Claire is David's mom and David is not Jack's son but is actually Aaron. And the reason we haven't seen the mother or seen any picture is because Jack/Davide/Claire's memory has been erased, all of this is a plot to keep them in the dark. This theory ...

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Awesome, thanks guys!

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Sorry, I've given up on predictions. I spend all this time looking back at past episodes, doing some serious math, and then I come up with what I think the length will be and C&J just post a podcast with some arbitrary length that has no basis on past show lengths and I'm left feeling empty. I hate...

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Sorry, I've given up on predictions. I spend all this time looking back at past episodes, doing some serious math, and then I come up with what I think the length will be and C&J just post a podcast with some arbitrary length that has no basis on past show lengths and I'm left feeling empty. I hate ...

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Claude wrote:So what now?

Hmm. I sort of said this to myself once the episode was over, in the exact same tone that Jacob used to say "What about you?" to Ben. I don't quite know how to feel about this...

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Two cast's in one week! Awesome, thanks...(I'm 'this' close to naming my first-born Claudustin, middle name, Lowdown)

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Episode 6.11 - 4:52 C: How did Christian die? J: I think he just drank himself to death. C: Ok. Yeah, I remember it not being anything specific, like a heart attack or anything. J: Yeah, they might have said something specific, but it was induced by drinking a lot of alcohol. C: OK. So he died from...

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...kill John Conner.

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AWESOME! Thanks for the pre-weekend podcast guys...

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Let it be known that as soon as I saw out-of-focus stadium seating I said, quite loudly, "this is the stupidest show ever." I give it an A. I agree wholeheartedly...maybe I just love how crazy it all is: the show as a something I watch and the show as something that actually exists on tv. I really ...

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The episode felt really surreal to me and for a while I taken aback since it did not seem like an episode of Lost. I totally agree. The first few minutes felt odd, kinda of rushed and sloppy with the dialogue of the characters sitting around the island very 'written'...I was worried...THEN WOW!! I ...

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michaelkirschner wrote:Who Fukstin?

(Typo: though a funny one!)

Fakstin = Fake Justin

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Time travel! It's sideways time travel right? Claude called Justin and, because of magnetism (and a guest director) Claude actually did the podcast with alternate reality Justin, ...who was just a bit off........ At the 6:03:21 mark Fukstin (Fake-Justin) said: "Hmm...I never had a hunch about that!"...

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From Greatest Hits: Desmond: What I saw, Charlie, was Claire and her baby getting into a helicopter. A helicopter that lifts off--leaves this Island. It's never happening. I think the actor just messed up the stage direction. Desmond: What I saw, Charlie, was Claire and her baby ! Getting into a he...

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I'll wager 5:55:23... HOLY CRAPOLY!! I was off by one second!! Who cares that I didn't watch the episode until this afternoon, logged on and saw that the LOWDOWN was 5:55:22 and only then made my prediction - I was a THIS close!!! Man, what a knob that m'boy is?!? He/she KNEW the actual time and ye...

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muttonboy wrote:I'll wager 5:55:23...

HOLY CRAPOLY!! I was off by one second!! Who cares that I didn't watch the episode until this afternoon, logged on and saw that the LOWDOWN was 5:55:22 and only then made my prediction - I was a THIS close!!!

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I'll wager 5:55:23...

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Could the lighthouse and the cave really both be Jacob's hideouts? (Not to mention the cabin and the statue?) I'm thinking that's a bit much, and one or other must be Smokey's. The obvious seems to be the cave, but the twist could be that the lighthouse - with the one watching the Losties lives - wa...

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Oh, look, Austen (presumably Kate) appears among the names in the lighthouse, with the number 51, and her name is not crossed out: http://img.skitch.com/20100224-m46tccw3y2e86f248mhiew2s3t.png The biggest impact on me from this episode was that I had actually FORGOTTEN about Kate, and when Jack saw...

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I don't mean to ruin the illusion, but has it ever occurred to you guys that 'Claude' and 'Justin' are just two companion marionettes of a long-dead inventor, and to this day are just sitting on either arm of an old armchair (with dead-inventor-bones in the seat between them) watching tv and yapping...

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Also, i'm really confused by Smokey saying "don't tell me what I can't do." I don't know. Maybe now that he's stuck in Locke's body, he's slowly becoming Locke. Mayve the Smoke Moster will eventually borrow some other quotes: "This is destiny, this is destiny... This is my destiny! I'm supposed to ...

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Vince wrote:
Discuss :)

Well, now that they've "gone there" again, they better go all the way back and explain why, if indeed the numbers originate in this fashion (Jacob's order of the MANY people who could possibly be candidates) why the hell were they used by Hurley/on Swan hatch/in the computer etc etc...

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Ben's eulogy is just classic.

Lapidus's response is classic-er!

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Could all the names (since they are last names only) be family members of the main characters we know, and not in fact our classic Losties? As in Ji-Yeon for Kwon; Christian Shepard; Sawyer's (Ford's) daughter; Hurley's dad (because that would be awesome) or his mom (because that would be awesomer);...

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Jacob seems the easy answer...which means we'll be led astray...but the answer will, eventually - and arrr-ingly indeed be Jacob...unless of course it's Aaron (my first thought, actually: if they're gonna make the baby important, now's the time to do it!). I can't quite figure out the timeline thoug...

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If you take JUSTIN and CLAUDE and you assign a secret numerical value to each letter you come up with 5h14m. Thus my prediction is 4h32m.

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So if Hurley can talk to dead people do you think he can talk to dead pinkies as well? How cool would that be! Hurley's all: trying to cock the gun; sneaking around the van; looking in the wrong direction; SLOWLY turning his head to see a giant baby-finger come bobbing through the foliage! "Ah, hel...

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We'll find a way to listen to it no matter how long, guys - just take a deep breath, relax, and do what you do best! (Unless you do other things 'best', which would just be crazy, but whatever). And if it helps - supportwise, that is - I've now added a little post-quip to the sign-off on all my emai...

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Ouch…dude!! Did your momma name you CorpsesAndChaos , or are you a Scott/Steve nobody who rebelled as a youth and tattooed CorpsesAndChaos on your arm to stick it to the man (‘the man’ being TLLD.net – as you seem to be an anti-Lostite - and which I would have labeled as ‘The Men’, but rules-to-the-...

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Yeesh!!! CorpsesAndChaos you need to chill man (and I say this with all the hippie-cool-smarm of our Kurtz-like interpreter): you need to sub-out "hilarious" and "arrogant" and "barf" and find some real meaningful backing for what you have succeeded only at hinting at as an argument. I'll respect yo...

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...one BILLLLLLION hours!

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So I'm reflecting on LOST and I want to be thinking about why Desmond was on the plane, why the island was under a lot of water even though it still had the barracks on it (can an island sink that deep in 30 years?), and even what the hell is gonna happen when Locke calls Jack for that free boo-boo'...

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So Ben pickpocketed Cesar's very heavy gun? I suspect he had to craft a gun from a branch and do a swap so Cesar wouldn't notice the weightloss. Too bad Cesar didn't pull out the branch-gun and have a standoff. Without Hurly we could have used a laugh...

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Lovely! Just lovely...I can't wait to hear the guys sing this (a la Leonard Cohen) on the next cast!

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I was really struggling with that (how Sayid can kill Ben, etc) until it donned on me: if I just ignore EVERYTHING Damon and Carlton have ever said in their podcasts/interviews about ANYTHING, then I can just enjoy the show. I mean, I keep trying to reconcile what they say with what is happening on ...

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me too ::snarf::

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Oh Radzinski! So he designed the Swan hatch AND worked there? I thought he was just another 'Desmond'. (Just a thought: Lostpedia states that he had to be buried within 108 minutes due to the button-pushing-schedule, but is it possible that he needs to be buried so that he doesn't ghostify?)

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Any thoughts on the various meetings? I found the first half-hour 'awkward' to watch - it really seemed like a struggle for the actors to pull off the scenes. Right up until Abaddon got it, then it was great writing/acting/directing...

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I also hope that the flight attendant survives. Not too be a spoiler, but I can assure she's okay: There's a scene cut from the end where once the flash happened the plane leveled off, she fixed her snapped neck and turned her leg around the right way, then frowned at the sudden does-not-compute re...

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